Comments on: Body Position: Staying in-line with the bike… http://www.citybikerblog.com/2009/11/body-position-staying-in-line-with-the-bike/ Sat, 28 Jan 2012 05:00:34 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Subaruzi http://www.citybikerblog.com/2009/11/body-position-staying-in-line-with-the-bike/comment-page-1/#comment-1508 Subaruzi Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:21:16 +0000 http://www.citybikerblog.com/?p=1048#comment-1508 So I think a big part of this is also moving around on your bike. Get your butt off of the seat. This helps shift your weight and put more pressure on the side you are turning on. The benefit is you are going to have to lean your bike over. At my last track day I spoke to a couple racers and had them follow me around. They were telling me what I am saying right now. Your legs are supposed to burn after a spirited ride. I made my adjustments and found myself working a lot easier with the bike. The next two days my legs were burning, but I had made more confident corners and dropped my lap times by a number of seconds. So I think a big part of this is also moving around on your bike. Get your butt off of the seat. This helps shift your weight and put more pressure on the side you are turning on. The benefit is you are going to have to lean your bike over. At my last track day I spoke to a couple racers and had them follow me around. They were telling me what I am saying right now. Your legs are supposed to burn after a spirited ride. I made my adjustments and found myself working a lot easier with the bike. The next two days my legs were burning, but I had made more confident corners and dropped my lap times by a number of seconds.

]]> By: Leo http://www.citybikerblog.com/2009/11/body-position-staying-in-line-with-the-bike/comment-page-1/#comment-1466 Leo Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:28:06 +0000 http://www.citybikerblog.com/?p=1048#comment-1466 I *think* they all use the rear brake for sharp turns... Rear brake + throttle at the same time through the whole turn. It slows the bike down without upsetting the balance - and for slow tight turns, keeping the rear brake on a little helps smooth out the throttle. This is pretty much a gymkhana technique, regular road riders don't need to do this. I don't think anyone would use the front brake all through the turn - they pretty much let go of the front brake once they're leaned over. But you can always lean the bike over while on the rear brake (not too hard though) without a problem... I *think* they all use the rear brake for sharp turns… Rear brake + throttle at the same time through the whole turn. It slows the bike down without upsetting the balance – and for slow tight turns, keeping the rear brake on a little helps smooth out the throttle. This is pretty much a gymkhana technique, regular road riders don’t need to do this.

I don’t think anyone would use the front brake all through the turn – they pretty much let go of the front brake once they’re leaned over. But you can always lean the bike over while on the rear brake (not too hard though) without a problem…

]]> By: Alex http://www.citybikerblog.com/2009/11/body-position-staying-in-line-with-the-bike/comment-page-1/#comment-1449 Alex Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:39:47 +0000 http://www.citybikerblog.com/?p=1048#comment-1449 Thanks for you answer! Hmm ... Top gymkhana riders use pos C and pos D _AND_ maybe they don't use rear brake for slow speed turns! They use _only_ front brake for sharp turns ! Is it true ? Thanks for you answer! Hmm … Top gymkhana riders use pos C and pos D _AND_ maybe they don’t use rear brake for slow speed turns! They use _only_ front brake for sharp turns ! Is it true ?

]]> By: Leo http://www.citybikerblog.com/2009/11/body-position-staying-in-line-with-the-bike/comment-page-1/#comment-1442 Leo Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:13:33 +0000 http://www.citybikerblog.com/?p=1048#comment-1442 Hey Alex - that's a good observation! In the US, they even teach "B" for slow u-turns, they call it "counter-balancing." And I think on larger bikes there would be no other way to make sharp turns slowly... Unfortunately I think that's the only time one would need to do this (yes i guess dirt riders do this too for similar reasons) - but it develops a bad habit for when you really need to turn quickly. So I see a number of Japanese gymkhana riders do "B" - but...take a look at the *top* gymkhana riders (usually not the police), what do they do on similar courses? Even on slow tight turns? Cheers! Hey Alex – that’s a good observation!

In the US, they even teach “B” for slow u-turns, they call it “counter-balancing.” And I think on larger bikes there would be no other way to make sharp turns slowly…

Unfortunately I think that’s the only time one would need to do this (yes i guess dirt riders do this too for similar reasons) – but it develops a bad habit for when you really need to turn quickly.

So I see a number of Japanese gymkhana riders do “B” – but…take a look at the *top* gymkhana riders (usually not the police), what do they do on similar courses? Even on slow tight turns?

Cheers!

]]> By: Alex http://www.citybikerblog.com/2009/11/body-position-staying-in-line-with-the-bike/comment-page-1/#comment-1440 Alex Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:49:23 +0000 http://www.citybikerblog.com/?p=1048#comment-1440 Leo! Sorry my newbie question. On japan police video I see pos B for slow U-turn and fast waves and pos D for others turns. I don't see pos C in a turn. Am I wrong ? Thanks for You blog! Leo! Sorry my newbie question. On japan police video I see pos B for slow U-turn and fast waves and pos D for others turns. I don’t see pos C in a turn. Am I wrong ? Thanks for You blog!

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